Sid:  My guest is red hot for the Messiah, but he wasn’t always. You see as a young man his father beat him and he had this mantra with him, if you will, that said, “No one will ever tell me what to do again.”  His father died when he was thirteen and at age fourteen he left home went to school, had a job, took care of himself then joined the Marines and they saw this rage within him and they actually used it to make him a killing machine.  Got out of the Marines and he was pretty wild and I believe it was a coworker invited you to go to church David and you went to church and then what happened?

David:  And then I was back there in the back of the church in the valley of decision, I wasn’t sure that I could live saved, I wasn’t sure that I could do this thing.  So I left the church and on my way out the pastor was standing in the back. He had this glow about him Sid, this aura about him. As he was smiling he said, “God bless you son,” he said “This is the house of God where everybody is somebody, are you going to come back and be with us on tomorrow?”  I said, “Yes sir, I’ll come back, he said, “We look forward to seeing you.”  And I walked out and that was on a Thursday.  Well I goes to work on Ford Motor Company on a Friday, okay my boss comes and bring that big old check and I say to myself, “Oh man this is Friday, the Eagle fly me and my brother are going to go out and party and have a good time, and then all of a sudden it came back to me, “You told that man of God you was coming to his church.”  And I said, “Oh man I shouldn’t have told him that, this is my party night, this is where I go and have fun and get high, I shouldn’t have never told him.” Sid, when I told him I made up my mind no, I’m not going I’ll go some other time,” all of a sudden I fell on the conveyor belt, the parts began to hit me on the head, people was raising up saying, “Somebody get him, help him.”  Sid I wanted to raise myself up, but I couldn’t all of a sudden God allowed me to hear my heart beat, then it started slowing down and I said, “Oh, no, please Lord give me another chance. I said “Oh God I’ll go to this man of God church just give me another chance. Oh have mercy Lord.”  I came back and I remember everybody’s around me.  “Are you alright?”  Sid, I looked toward the heavens I say “God don’t do me like this I’ll go to this man of God’s church.”  That Friday I went and as I was getting dressed at home my friends all came in their cars, “Man are you ready to go party?”  I said, “Nope, I’m not going to party tonight, you all don’t know what happened to me today I almost died.”  I said, “I’m not thinking nothing about what you all are saying I’m not going partying I’m going to the House of God, they say, “This guy done gone crazy.”  I went and I sat in the back and the evangelist was preaching again, he made the altar call, I said, “Oh, my God I got to do it Lord, I said, I’ve been brought up in church I know what’s right.”  And so I walks up there and he looks at me and he says son, “Do you want to be saved, to you want to give your life to Jesus?”  I say “Yes, sir, I want to be saved,” and I went to grab his hand and when I grabbed his hand the power of God hit me and I flew straight back and it wasn’t no ushers back there to catch me Sid and when I hit the floor I remember the young sisters was looking at me and for a second I got embarrassed.  And I said, “What am I doing on this floor and all these girls looking at me?”  And back then I thought I was a cool daddy you know and all of a sudden it began in my belly, all of a sudden it got into my chest and then it got into my robe and then it got into my tongue and then it began to cleave to the roof of my mouth.  And then I began to hear myself speaking in a heavenly languages, pretty soon Sid I didn’t care who was looking at me, such joy, such peace, such love I never experienced before, I was on crack cocaine, mescaline, acid, TAC, alcohol, I was an alcoholic when I need to get a drink my hand would tremble, but I never in my entire born days experienced such joy, such a wholeness, such a love, such peace, just overwhelming me and the power of God was filling my body and I never been the same ever since.

Sid:  You know as I’ve read your book, “Humble is the Way.” I found that you were, you were so sabotaged to miss your calling.

David:  Yes.

Sid:  And the sabotage is this one sentence “No one tells me what to do.”

David:  No one tells me what to do.

Sid:  And that’s because your father use to beat you when you were a young boy.

David:  Right.

Sid:  So when you got into the church, you loved your pastor, but you ran into a few problems, tell me about some of them.

David:  And I remember in the choir, we was in choir rehearsal on a Thursday, and a big old brother; football player like brother he said, Brother let me see those bongos and he said this is how you play them and he took them he said, “That’s how you play them.”  And Sid I still had a problem, I still had issues, I wasn’t healed yet. I took the bongos from him and I said, “Let me tell you one thing, “You play the bongos the way you play them and I’ll play them the way I’ll play them and if you don’t like it brother let’s step outside and we’ll settle it like men.”  And everybody was like, “Oh no,” he said, “Brother I don’t want to fight you over it.”  And the next thing I know somebody said, “The pastor wants to see you in his office,”  I said, “Oh man, and I go to his office and he said, “Come on in son, have a seat.”  And I say “Yes Sir.”  He said, “Son, I heard you threatened a brother up in the sanctuary, he said, “Never do that again.”  We don’t do that here, you’re not in the Marines now, you’re in the army of the Lord’s there’s no fighting over here, for that you sit down for two weeks, don’t play your bongos, nor your drums, anything.  I said, “Yes sir.” “You must come to church and sit on the front row like you usually do,” and I said, “Yes sir.”  For two weeks Sid it was the most agonizing, I would look at my bongos, I would look at the drums, I couldn’t play them.  Other people were playing them and I said, “What do I want to just do this, do I want to submit, but what kept coming to me Sid was his love for me, he had another son, he treated me as equal just like his son.  The love is what God me Sid, the love of God through the man of God got my attention that I made myself, I submitted myself.  Humility is strength under control, I could have bucked up I’m not doing this, I’ don’t care who you are, but I submitted myself. Almost before the two weeks was over he come and tapped me and he said, “Come on son, go ahead and play your bongos praise God in the pulpit now, come up and play your bongos.”  And I was released.

Sid:  But there was several other occasions one in particular where a pastor you really respected that you really loved asked you to do some work for him on the side.

David:  Right.

Sid:  Tell me about that.

David:  Well, this pastor his wisdom was astounding, I never seen nothing like it before, he’s one when you get in the pulpit it was like sitting under Solomon but when he got out of the pulpit he was mean, he was short, he was angry, he was like something was always brewing and burning inside.  He would snap you up and just get you tolling.  And I was in between jobs at that time and so he asked me to work on one of his properties houses.  I said, “Yes sir,” and I was cutting the grass and weed whacking the grass and all that and it was a hot day and I was back there just working and I said, “I’m going to do this man of God a good job, this is a man of God.  And I was working, I thought I was working hard, and he came back and he said, “Brother, you need to pick up the pace.”  I said, “Yes sir pastor,” and so I start doing faster and faster and five minutes he came right around, brother, “I’m paying you good money, you need to pick up the pace”.  Then all of a sudden Sid I got into the flesh, I must admit.  I say sir, “You know who you remind me of?”  He said, “You remind me of my dad, if it’s not his way it’s not right,”  And he said, “Brother, if you had any wisdom you know you’ve said enough.”  I said, “Oh, oh.” And I just came to myself and I said, “Sir, I’m sorry, he said, “Brother, I forgive you, but God heard you.”  I went home that day, the next morning to get up at 6:00 I couldn’t move, I was paralyzed from the neck down and I was devastated and I began to pray and cry to God. I was like “God, what’s going on?”  What’s happening and I heard the Lord say, “Touch not my anointed, nor do my prophets no harm, even if they’re wrong.”  And when he’s saying “Touch not my anointed He’s meaning that the man is so great, he’s saying touch not my anointing that smeared upon the man.  I don’t know if you remember when Samuel when the people rejected Samuel and when Samuel went to God because the thing hurt him so bad and the Lord said to Samuel, “Samuel the people have not rejected you, they have rejected me because I have appointed you the prophet to the nation.”  So from 6:00 in the morning all the way until 7:00 in the evening I was praying and crying out to God.  I’m going to say this, this is my personal testimony Sid, I’m not saying this is what happened to everybody but this is how God got my attention.  And all of a sudden…

Sid:  For the great anointing that he has poured out on your life he needed you to understand these spiritual dynamics.

David:  And I was just laying there and all of a sudden I began to urinate on myself, I mean this is most the darkest time in my life…

Sid:    Because you’re paralyzed there.

David:  Paralyzed from the neck down, I said, “Please Lord, have mercy, please Lord have mercy.  All of a sudden all of my body functions came back and I fell on the floor and I fell on my face and I say, “Please forgive me Lord, I’ll honor your servant Lord.”  I’ll respect…all of a sudden I went to the next day and I went to the pastors house and I repented to him again.  And he said, “Oh son, I forgot all about that. Now let me show you the flip side,” two weeks later he asked me to go work at a church with him.  I was in between jobs again because I was doing construction, I was framing houses, I was doing sheet rock.  And I said, “Yes sir,” and we went and we got up on this scaffold and he was hollering at me and screaming and I said, “Oh God, I’m not going to say nothing, I’m not going to say nothing my Lord. I’m going to respect this man of God.”  Sid as I was working, he say, “Brother, be careful on this scaffold, watch what you’re doing,” and I said, ”Yes sir.” I said, “Oh God I think I’m going to walk off I can’t take it, I’m just going to leave.”  All of a sudden he fell. He’s 250 pounds. he fell off the scaffolding himself. God allowed me, I had the hammer in my hand to balance myself as he was going down, go on the scaffold and catch him Sid, and pull him up.  But when he fell the wood snapped on both sides on his right side and on his left side, they scrapped his whole body. Then I pull him up on the one board that was remaining left and so when I pulled him up he as hurting so bad and I wanted to say “Sir, are you alright and I heard God speaking to my hearing, “Go back to work, go back to work.”  And I just obeyed and I went back to work, then he was there, “Oh…oh…..oh, and then I heard the Lord say, “if you hold your peace I will always fight for you.  But it’s conditional, the reason why a lot of Christians never see My mighty hand never move in their life, they never hold their peace; they never let me fix it.  A lot of times I want to talk and they always want to talk; a lot of times they want to stand up in them, but they always standing up, so I just move out of the way and let them handle it.”

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